THE only positive thing that we can take in that loss against Timor Leste was that the U23 squad looked good in blue. And Ebong, too. The Blue-Haired fanatic whose voice we all heard on TV was fantastic. The team? The result? To be perfectly blunt it was a scrappy game from a scrappy team that seemed to treat the SEAG as a vacation, or a chance to gain more Twitter followers. (Yey, I can tweet the team apology first!) Going into the match, almost every fan who paid attention knew that we needed to win. Unfortunately, it seemed the players were operating on a different mindset.
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that UC vs Hiroshi game sure got my temper up. two Hiroshi players were obviously offside - there was no beating the offside trap there, i should know, i was directly behind the linesman and i have 20-20 vision - yet no flag came up. no use complaining to the CebuFA about the result though. referee ineptitude is an unfortunate part of the game.
but if you ask me, a similar sanction is senseless. why - because there is no other U19 tournament for totot this season, unless SRFC won the right to represent Cebu in the regionals. there are the festivals but coaching is virtually non-existent in this small-sided matches. coach Gerali was allowed to coach in the other age groups and was also allowed to play in the Aboitiz.
the sanction that made sense to me was the one handed out to coach Glen Ramos when UC "walked-out" of that CESAFI match. the 1 tournament ban against coaching at the collegiate level and the 1 tournament ban on the team is a more effective sanction than the previous one.
if the same sanction as coach Gerali will be meted out to coach Totot, then the sanction will take effect on the next U19 NEXT YEAR !!! that's not much of a punishment.
Totot cannot be given the same sanction as Glen because he doesn't have a team in the collegiate level. however, if i have my facts right, totot coaches several teams in SRFC and also at Bright. my opinion would be to ban Totot for 1 age-group tournament wherein he is the recognized coach. CebuFA will also have to consider banning SRFC U19 team from the next U19 tournament.
Bai Totot, nothing personal here. this is an issue of policy. na-timing lang nga ikaw ang na sentro sa issue. hope you understand.
nullifying SRFC's games would benifit USC and it wouldn't be fair to UC and Hiroshi. rescheduling the USC-SRFC match should only be done if SRFC notified CebuFA properly so that the game could be properly postponed. a forfeiture was already declared, the scoresheet signed, thus that "game" is done and over with.
both solutions Maximo proposed will be interpreted by many as favoring USC. he should just let the standings be as it is. either of the proposed solutions means Maximo would be changing the rules of the tournament in the middle of the tournament, a basic no-no in sports. Maximo must resist from making a political decision and let the tournament rules stand on their own.
several years back in the age-groups level, several teams failed to advance to the semis because they were not able to pad their goal difference/goals scored when Banawa Elementary School and SRFC forfeited a majority of their games. Maximo then did not make any rule changes in favor of the disadvantaged teams - he shouldn't do so now. for the sake of integrity, he should be consistent.
i feel the frustrations of the USC team. i personally know and followed several of the players when they were still in grade school and still had no idea what to do with a soccer ball. i know that situations such as this is very frustrating to a young player. one of them later came up to me at the Mizuno Cup and said he was very dissapointed but accepted it as part of the game. if 17-18 year olds can understand that, then our adult football leaders should do so too.
USC can still win it if they beat Hiroshi. together with UC, the three teams are tied in points. that means the three teams will be gunning for wins and not be settling for draws. that makes it even more exciting. look at it this way, the SRFC forfeiture was not the end of the tournmanent - it just made things interesting.
hope you get it right ronaldo,and the case i have compared to glen and david is different,i know you are a donbosco supporter,i respect that but respect as also i know nothing personal i accept that..
this is getting confusing. if they received notice of SRFC's non-appearance in that match then why the forfeiture ruling ? why not just reschedule the match ?
PFF rules states that a forfeiture warrants a penalty. if the match was ruled a forfeiture, then why should their be no penalty on the coach ? last year's precedent placed the blame on the forfeitures on the coach. why won't the same ruling apply now. a forfeit of any circumstance is still a forfeit, right ?
can somebody explain Maximo's definition of forfeiture please ?
unya bai, ayaw pataka og sulti diha nga ehas kay lain kaayo na. gi sulti-an ka nako daan pagsugod niani nga ang policy sa CebuFA ang gusto nakong klarohon. gisulti-an man gani ka daan nga ayaw personala kay polisiya ang gi-istoryahan.
kasabot ko nga apektado kaayo ka kay hadlok ka ma sanction. pero sabta pud nga dili ra ikaw ang apektado sa issue. unsaon na man lang diay ang uban nga nahatolan og sanction unya naay pangutana nga wala dyud gi tubag. alang-alang diay nga mo hilom lang aron dili ka ma-ipit.
taronga sa og sabot tot. ayaw og diretso og sulti og ehas diha kay kahibalo ka daan unsay tumong sa mga pangutan - aron ma sabtan sa tanan ang pamaagi o polisiya sa CebuFA bahin sa forfeiture og bahin sa sanction.
naapiktuhan di i ka sa akuang gisulti waku man namirsunal oi,nganu gud tawn i know unsa akuang gi stand karun and its up to the cfa bay...
wana blema basta ikaw ok ra waku namirsonal nimu
Problem here as you pointed out... that they were informed beforehand and the decision was still forfeiture of the game... Since it is so... penalties should be handed out... sounds confusing isnt it....
Well, Ronaldo please understand this isnt the first time such a decision was made, so lets give them a chance.
What is important is they acknowlege SRFC's case and the importance of education...
also keep in mind that SRFC's case is totally different from the previous short comings.
Pat on the back goes to CebuFA....
you are also partly right, this issue is not exactly the same as in the case of coach David Gerali. but the last time i took a look at the PFF rules, "a forfeiture of a scheduled game will result in a fine and/or suspension of either the coach, the team or both". that is also the question i want answered because CebuFA already declared (it's at SunStar Online) that they will not sanction totot.
Riscoh, a forfeiture was declared so according to PFF rules, a sanction should be given to either Totot, SRFC or both. i didn't demand that a sanction be given. all i did was state the PFF rule.
i even told totot that he doesn't deserve a long or heavy sanction because the non-appearance of the SRFC had a valid reason and that all he has to do is show proof or certification from the principal and i'm sure that CebuFA will be lenient on him. ang problema
ni Totot kay nikalit man lang og panawag nga ehas ta. siya pay gi-labanan, siya pay manginsulto. aw kung mao nang iyang batasan, aw di dili na lang gud ta mo laban gud.
sand you are right man and i want you and us to wait and im waiting...
riscoh bay im not doing something maka away ni ronaldo basin wami magkasabut and salamat sa laban nimu ronaldo...
i want nga magpaabut sa unsa ilahang desisyun,and if thats the case that you read the pff guidelines lets just wait for the desision..
gudday
Im just happy to hear that no punishment was given to Totot and the team... and I wouldnt want them to punish the guys for the things they cant control.
Maybe next time when they issue some sort of a press release.. or what the heck they call it... They should probably site which rules their decisions were based upon... Coz base on what you've pointed out... if it was a forfeiture of the game then they deserve penalties and not just let em go as if nothing had happend... and they should try to reschedule the game coz... it not fair to SRFC and the team(s) which were affected by the decision. Even if SRFC is bound to lose the game, experience would benefit them in the long run...
No worries... Ronaldo