Just a few inputs

There are 11-a-side tournaments -- albeit the cup kind -- for the age groups mentioned in the report, the one about the football festival. Sorry, that kind of got left off in lieu of a certain team's boycott.

As to the U17 girl's team, any one can still join.

Which reminds me, this is why precisely, the CebuFA needs to have their own website, so issues and questions raised can be answered directly. Instead of me having to answer it for them, hereby reinforcing the belief, which someone has expressed to a fellow reporter, that I am in their payroll.

Frankly folks, if I am to charge, the way Manila reporters charge, for football's publicity here in Cebu, the only money left for CebuFA won't be enough to buy one single decent stud.

Comments

Anonymous said…
good to know there will be 11 a side tournaments. just wish CebuFA will make it public so we will know when to expect it, and if it will be qualifying tournaments for something much bigger.

as for the CebuFA under17 ladies team, i hope the coaches seek out those players from Science High School. they are tall, athletic and fast. KTEC trained them well. some are even former elementary gymnasts, thats why they are athletically gifted.
Anonymous said…
in my own case i want that the cfa holds a tournament 11 aside for players 14 and17 boys not just once,so that they will be more exposed..and for the mens open there should be also
Anonymous said…
bai mike, among football forums, yours is the most informative when it comes to cebufootball (no ass-kissing here my friend - many will agree with me).

an official CebuFA website might be informative when it comes to game schedules and results, and CebuFA and PFF official anouncements or news - but it won't be the same opinion/idea-generating venue that your blog has become. i even have more trust even in some ramblings posted here than in the facts and figure posted elsewhere. for sure, a CebuFA official website will be self-serving and criticism free site.
Anonymous said…
11-a side games should even include Boys 12 as in most other countries. Small-sided games should only be for the Under 10 and below.
Anonymous said…
In Europe the kids dont play 11-a side before they are 13-14.
Anonymous said…
the concern i raised was will there be 11-a-side tournaments aside from the reported festival. yes, boys 12 should be playing 11 a side already. problem is, other age groups above 12 years old may not have 11 a side tournaments organized by the CebuFA again for them this year. remember that last season, it was RedRibbon who did the P14 tournament while the juniors had the DepEd organized tournaments. there was nothing from the CebuFA except for the Aboitiz P12 and P15.
Anonymous said…
schools and teams that has CebuFA board affiliations has some very strong teams and some weak ones. will we expect 11 a side tournaments in brackets were they are strong and mere festivals were they are weak ?

that is why i am hoping that all brackets should be tournament type, 11 a side for P12above and 7 aside for P10below. this is not about winning festivals and tournaments and bragging about it. this is about developing skills and tactics that is best achieved when teams and players play in tournaments.

if there has to be changes in age-classification then i hope CebuFA will clarify it as early as possible. last season, the Red Ribbon P14 was billed as a try-out for the PFF u14 but more than half of those who played in the RedRibbon wasn't qualified for the PFF team because the cutoof date was 1992 for the PFF while the RedRibbon was 1991.

many players born 1993 weren't even invited - players who could have ran rings around those who were invited for the PFF try-outs. these players also had dreams to play for the country. who are the CebuFA to decide who should try-out and who should not.

for me, that one distinct act of "garapal" favoritism proved once and for all how incompetent the CebuFA is when it comes to youth development. the same act also makes me doubt present and future CebuFA teams. i have no intention to put down the players who has been selected or pre-selected to these teams, but if some of cebufootball's best players are not even invited to try-out, then CebuFA might just as well not hold try-outs at all. better to be honest and show favoritism than raise the hopes of players only to discourage them by playing favorites.

again, these players has dreams too, not just those pre-selected to join.

that is why i am not a fan of try-outs when it comes to CebuFA teams. i would prefer holding tournaments for a particular bracket then let the champion team represent cebufootball. if the winning coach wishes to add reinforcements then it's his prerogative. he should not be pressured to take in players not familiar with his system, no matter how good a player may be in another system. remember the saying - "a champion team will always be better than a team of champions."

i'd like to see tournaments being organized and champion teams earning the right to represent cebufootball. no more favoritism and politics. just football.
Anonymous said…
mikeH-thanks for the info that in Europe 11-a-side starts for Boys 13.I didnt know that. I was talking of US Youth Soccer. Their Boys 10 even play 9-a-side which we dont play here I dont know why.
ronaldo-I made this observation before that I didnt see much DBTC players during the PFF 1992 try-outs.Werent they invited?
Anonymous said…
roberto,

no DBTC players went to the try-out because they weren't invited.

from what i know, there was no direct contact made regarding the under14 PFF tryouts. in fact john carmona called up coach joselito bono because he wanted to see the DBTC elementary team of 1993-1994 born players (which went on to win the Palarong Pambansa elementary football crown going up against obvious high school players) and wondered why they weren't there during the tryouts because he wanted to see the boys, but unfortunately his tight schedule prevented him from going to their training and observe the boys.

if CebuFA shows proof that the DBTC players were invited (other than the newspaper report) i would change my made immediatly with regards CebuFA. but i know that no such invitation was made. why - your guess is as good as mine.

why would an invitation - to a PFF national team tryout - be made in just a newspaper report ? does a phonecall to the coaches to personally inform them of the tryouts cost millions in cebu ?

i would rather not comment on the chances the DBTC boys might have had if they were given the chance to try-out because i would not be the best person to make such an assessment. what i would rather stress is the fact that CebuFA did not invite them to try-out. that team won all eleven a side tournaments that could be won last season, yet they were purposely not invited. they defeated champion teams from BaguioFA, NOFA and NCRFA yet CebuFA decided they were not good enough to tryout for the PFF under14.

however, i would also like to say that the 3 Springdale players deserved to be in that squad, in fact i expected 2 more from springdale, 2 from abellana and 1 from city central to be at least part of the training pool. however, i am convinced that more cebuanos would have made it to the team if only CebuFA did their job and not played favorites.

just one more reason why cebufootball is going to the dogs. great job CebuFA.
Anonymous said…
ronaldo, you said that "2 more from Springdale.....could have made it,so does this means you were watching the try-outs? (Didnt you think some DBTC players could have made it too?) Didnt you tell DBTC about the on-going try-outs so they could have complained right there and then that they were not invited. Is there nobody in the CFA board representing or at least connected at all with DBTC? I think the real powerhouses in youth soccer in Cebu now are Don Bosco, Paref and Abellana/City Central and these three should have some kind of representation in the board.
Anonymous said…
not the tryouts but during the RedRibbon Tournament. the Springdale U14 team was simply several cuts above the rest. that team would be forminable this season in the under16 division.

whether or not DBTC players could have made it to the team is not the issue. the issue is how come they weren't invited. for me, an inviutation thru a press release is not an invitation. let's be honest - i would be a naive fool if i would think that the other schools were just informed thru the papers. CebuFA personally informed and reminded the other coaches regarding the tryouts. with DBTC, they did not. why - again your guess is as good as mine.

i learned about the tryouts AFTER it happened and when somebody told me that John Carmona was asking where were the DBTC players. that was when i learned that there was a press release informing players born 1992 about the tryouts.

DBTC has no representation in the CebuFA board. there are three from both Springdale and CIS and three others from mens teams.
Anonymous said…
invitations to CebuFA and PFF tryouts should be done thru official correspondence and not thru press releases (no offense to media - i'm not implying they have a fault).

CebuFA should have regular coaches meetings, where the coaches can be properly informed about upcoming tryouts, tournaments or developments. i have been hesitant to publicly agree with some sectors that CebuFA is publicity dependent but i will have to agree in this case. relying on a press release for official announcements was wrong. some coaches also are PE instructors and may not have the time to scan the sports pages regularly. a sport governing body should not take that chance.

however, if CebuFA resorted to that method so that some quarters will not be able to come to the tryouts, then shame on them. if that was their intention, then they definitely succeeded in NOT giving several of cebufootball's finest the chance to shine in the international arena.

so that their affiliated players will have a better chance of joining the national team or to bring down other football programs - many would be a fool not to think so.
Anonymous said…
ronaldo and roberto i agree with both of you. When there are upcoming tournaments the cebufa should meet with all the coaches, whether they are interested or not they should be informed so no one would blame anyone else of not being informed.

I think the reason that they do not inform is so that springdale and teams other than don bosco will have more chances. I myself am a fan of Paref but this is just really wrong Maximo does not know his priorities as a Presisent and i think he should start acting up like a good one because since his term, Cebu football has declined especially with the stop of 11 aside games for all ages.
Anonymous said…
speaking of coaches, it's the middle of july already. didn't Maximo announce that he has scheduled a coaching seminar for Class C licensing this month ? any news about that ?

or was that just another empty promise.
Anonymous said…
ronaldo, you have many good ideas. When is the next election for the CFA board? Is it also next year together with the PFF? Seriously.
Anonymous said…
roberto, everything i've posted here i've gathered or heard from practically all sectors of cebufootball. nothing that i have proposed are original ideas, thus i lay no claim to these ideas. if ever there is something original that i did, it's putting two and two together and presenting it as a whole.

for example, when i hear an issue regarding Sambag football (Hiroshi, Abellana or City Central) i'll simply talk with any of their coaches when i get the chance and then make my own assesment of their situation - based on their side. for collegiate football - UC, USJR, USC and UV coaches or players are just a "kumusta bai" away. wondering about a call i am not familiar or have a problem with - the referees can be approached several days after the game and a simple "ngano man diay to" usually gets a clarification. want to reminice about cebufootball history, a "kahinumdom ka bai" at the sidelines during games will get lips flapping.

sponsors ? i know what needs to be done to run a business, that's why i tend to look at CebuFA problems as a failure in basic management. their approach and handling of sponsors would shock even the lowest managerial position. a definite goal and a development plan is automatic for any enterpreneur - thus it is a disaster that the CebuFA doesn't have any.

i try to watch all the games, whether or not my favored teams are playing. and i watch it alongside players and coaches, and not with parents and yayas, so i can listen to their comments based on experience and share some of my own.

all that and of course a passion for the game keeps me posting here and in other forums.

the next CebuFA elections - i have no idea. but the buying of voting rights is still allowed thus i am expecting Springdale and CIS to still dominate the next board. i am totally against the buying of voting rights because it means that any Tom, Dick or Harry can come in and determine cebufootball policy. yes, an owner of his own company with NO football background and a sidewalk vendor with NO football background can sit, side by side, as a CebuFA director and determine the path of cebufootball, as long as they have 100pesos to spare.

that is why we are experiencing this "garapal" favoritism right now.

the CebuFA board should be composed by those with genuine stakes in cebufootball, either recognized coaches, official team representatives or school administrators/atheletic directors. cebufootball policies should be formulated by those who knows the game. other people may come in to implement these policies, in the form of a managing team or tournament directors.

if worse comes to worse and the same system we have right now is still in place for several more years, then come join me at the belfry of the Cebu Cathedral and help me toll the mourning bells for cebufootball.
Anonymous said…
Ronaldo,

Your too quick to say that the system of this administration is "garapal" without remembering that during the last aministration when you were still sitting at the board you were appointing replacements left and right who has done nothing also except having their pictures taken at the opening and closing cremonies. In short this bata bata system is just a continuation of what you have done in the past.

If we have to elect another set of officials we have to make sure that nobody in the past and present will make it to ensure a complete change in the system.
Anonymous said…
bai, correction - i was never a board of director of the CFA nor am i a member of the CebuFA. i'm just an avid follower of cebufootball and i do not represent any team. please don't confuse me with someone else.

if you are here to defend the present CebuFA, then please post your opinions to the issues raised or to the points made. that is what this blog/forum is all about.
Anonymous said…
bai,

one other thing, if you can look beyond your loyalty to the incumbent CebuFA board, try to read and understand the reason behind this issue. we are discussing ways on how to make cebufootball better by pointing out our mistakes. i haven't read any posts here (from me or from anyone else) that has even remotely proposed that we put the past administration back in control.

cebufootball is bleeding, and no answer or cure has come from CebuFA. that's the reason why we raised issues (for or against) them here. since you obviously support the incumbents, then perhaps you can tell us about their development program and how they will implement it.

i will look forward to you showing us that.

if there is one.
Anonymous said…
"bai", where's the program ?

anyway, the CebuFA is the recognized authority in cebufootball, that is why people are expecting them to lead us from point a to point b. what "bai" wants us to believe is that just because the previous administration displayed favoritism, it is therefore alright for the incumbents to display their own acts of favoritism. that is one of the main reasons why cebufootball will never progress.

"bai", you and the incumbent CebuFA cannot keep using the acts of the previous administration as an excuse for your shortcomings. the CebuFA's job is not to point out past mistakes but to prevent future ones so that we can truly develop football here.

"bai", perhaps you may have benifited from acts of favoritism from the CebuFA now - well good for you. but are you sure that the favor you recieved, perhaps at the expense of others, benifited cebufootball as a whole ? if it didn't, then you have done a very selfish act - putting your interest above that of the majority.

that is the reason why the CebuFA board should be composed ONLY of official representatives of teams and schools. that way, whatever policy they formulate has at least the approval of the majority. putting cebufootball's future in the hands of just one group will never solve our problems. the interests and agenda of that group will always be prioritized and not that of the majority.

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