CebuFA verdict out Friday
THE Cebu Football Association is set to issue its verdict this Friday on the University of Cebu and Don Bosco Youth Center.
UC 'walked out' of its final game against the University of San Jose-Recoletos in the Cebu Schools Athletic Foundation Inc, a CebuFA sanctioned event, while DBTC has forfeited its last two matches in the Aboitiz U 15.
Will there be a suspension, fine or ban for the erring coaches?
CebuFA has promised to fax its statement to the media outlets this Friday, so wait for the story on Saturday, or you can check this site, Friday night.
That is if, I am sober.
UC 'walked out' of its final game against the University of San Jose-Recoletos in the Cebu Schools Athletic Foundation Inc, a CebuFA sanctioned event, while DBTC has forfeited its last two matches in the Aboitiz U 15.
Will there be a suspension, fine or ban for the erring coaches?
CebuFA has promised to fax its statement to the media outlets this Friday, so wait for the story on Saturday, or you can check this site, Friday night.
That is if, I am sober.
Comments
Duwa ra ba semifinals sa Don Bosco against Springdale ugma, nindot pud sila mo timing. Aron sigurado silang ma sulod sa finals, ilang gi maneho nga mawala ang coach sa Don Bosco.
Kahibalo na ang tanan diri sa Sambag og sa Cebu nga ang gi siguro ra aning CFA ang Springdale og CIS. Tanawa ra gud, kay dili man cla maka-porma og u14 team, wala na lang mag put-up og tournament para nila. How about the other clubs and teams nga naay u14 team, unfair kaayo nila. Kana kunong DBYC sa don bosco, ingon ang mga referee mao kuno na ang u14 team sa don bosco nga ni-apil lang kay wala man silay tournament nga duwaan. dili ni hinoon excuse sa ilang gibuhat, pero dili man tingali na mahitabo kung naa lang untay bracket nga u14.
Unsa man diay ni ang policy sa CFA, kung unsay maayo para sa Springdale og CIS, mao sab ang maayo para sa uban? Kaning mga gadala sa CFA karon, grabe kaayo ang panaway sa mga gibuhat sa past leaders apan mao ra sab diay gihapon ang ilang gi buhat karon. dili unta ininganaon ninyo oi.
CFA should not gang-up on Don Bosco and Ramos. for several decades, these people has carried the football torch in cebu while springdale and CIS football was non-existent or in the doldrums. these people has represented cebu in international and national tournaments proudly. i have recently seen the don bosco trophy display and was impressed by the several hundred national and local championships displayed there. only recently, the cebu U19team almost beat iloilo in the regional eliminations by a 1-2 score. the cebu team of coach ramos had an almost all-bosconian lineup while iloilo had 11 national team members. springdale and CIS only had a total of 1 representative during the try-outs. Is this what they call pride ?
The mishaps of CFA should also be exposed and not swept under the carpet. what about the complaints of the teams of the U19 championships last year, the lenient sanctions of the exxas-hiroshi championship games, the inability of the CFA to attract sponsors and to organize tournaments (they only have the aboitiz cup while the rest are only CFA-sanctioned), and their inability to gain access to USC and Ayala playing fields. reading news reports seems like reading PR advertisements for CFA, springdale and CIS.
Springdale and CIS have excellent coaches and skilled players. they don't need to have an added advantage coming from the CFA so that they can dominate cebu football. if these teams want to be champions, they should do so in the playing field alone without interference from the CFA. let the players decide the outcome of the games and not the CFA.
Para nako ang mga sanctions sa Don Bosco ug ni Ramos angayan gyod kay kapila na nila gibuhat. Pangutan-a na si Ramos kon kapila na siya ni walk-ot sukad pagbalik niya diri sa Cebu.
this also opens up a new question. is there a CFA procedure for these situation or does the CFA make it up dependeing on the situation. i would like to know what the by-laws say about complaints/hearings/verdicts/and appeals regarding sanctions.
if there is such a procedure and there are established sanctions for specific infractions then human ang istorya. but if there are none, and the sanctions were just determined by a group against a rival group, then dili dyud na malikayan ang pag-duda nga naay bias or naay gi labanan.
What semifinal match between Don Bosco and Springdale are you talking about? the under 15s? its not until next week, while the under 12 semifinals were played a week ago. congrats for winning by the way.
second poster
exas-hiroshi players were also suspended for one tournament
last poster.
glen ramos, eddi buot, bro. mari were there when the disciplinary committee met for the decision, and i think they based their decision on mari's report and the referee's report. bro mari is with don bosco, are you saying that aside from the don bosco faction in football, there is a faction within the don bosco faction?
another thing. by walking out, the team has also forefeited its right to appeal.
will have to find a copy though so i can publish it..maybe ill have that specific section scanned so i can publish it.
anyway..thanks for dropping by..we may not agree with each other most of the times..that doesnt mean we cant talk about it..
lastly, unsa man na ang gi-imply nimo regarding another faction sa don bosco? are you talking about maximo being a bosconian but he is supporting/representing/protecting the interests of springdale ? (na hala, lain na pud ning intriga. magtukod na lang kaha tag football blog ala "the buzz"!!!!!!
naa man gud toy ni-ingon diri nga gisugardo sa cfa ang donbosco para mudaug ang springdale.
pero akong nabalan ang gibasehan sa decision sa pagsuspend kay glen mao man ang report from brod mari kay siya man ang tournament manager sa cesafi.... so in effect apil sa brod sa decision sa cfa di ba?
mas ok sad nang ala buzz...para naa tay kris aquino...
pero mas nindot ug mas kusog ang cebufootball kung maundang ning faction faction..kadaghang maayong player sa cebu ah..
ang akong nailhang mga members sa board..makitan man sad nako sa mga games (usahay maski walay duwa ilang mga teams)
kana lang festival daan for children nga daghan kaayo participants, maayo na kaau na nga development. starting them young. naa bay ingon-ani sa una? ambot lang. bisan sa manila, wa ko kadungog ingon-ani (aside from the fact that manila media don't report football).
ang akong kahadlukan kay kung maundang ni ang unsay nasugdan sa cfa tungod lang sa selfish interests of some individuals or factions
CFA and those that voted them into power should not be onion-skinned kung naay lain nga opinion regarding cebu football. Pila gud na kanila ang dili kamao mo duwa og dili regular mo tanaw sa mga games except for their children's games so i think ang apprehensions sa uban is worth listening to, dili lang nato pahilumon. wala man sab gi post diri og sa other topic nga wag-tangon ang festival type nga tournaments kay i think they understand nga it is good for promotions and PR but for them, detrimental or stunts football development kung kana ra sige. ang ilaha lang is that there should be more 11aside games/tournaments. i think that is the core of their concern.
ang sa 11aside, after the full 50 or 90 minute game (depende sa age bracket), ma analyze sa coaches unsay maayo og unsay kuwang sa dinuwaan sa mga bata, naay 1 week to plan, practice and then make the proper adjustments, and then i-apply dayon on the next game. for me, that is how football should be.
7aside is ideal for the small kids, kanang 10yrs old below, but kung 12above na, it's time nga ma focus na sila sa 11aside. ok ra man kung mag festival paminsan-minsan but kahinganlan mas daghan ang games nga full-court.
i don't see anything selfish in this. stupid hinuon tingali if we dont listen to the needs and concerns of the schools and clubs nga walay representative sa CFA board. murang wala pa ra ba nahitabo nga nag tawag og miting ang CFA para sa tanan nga coaches, managers og schools for the purpose of making or formulating a long-term football program for cebu (bahala na nang other provinces). angay tingali nga himoon ni nato aron ang tanan nga views og concerns ma apil sa program. after that, then for sure everything will go on smoother.
imong pasabot nga mas epektibo ang sigeg panaway? pero i get what you mean. and precisely nganong ingon ko nga "far from perfect" sila kay daghan pa i-improve. as observers, ang pangutana kay unsa nga constructive criticism atong mahatag (or wala ba tay vested interests mao nang manaway ta for the sake of it)
"7aside is ideal for the small kids, kanang 10yrs old below, but kung 12above na, it's time nga ma focus na sila sa 11aside"
unsay imong basis ani? do you know unsa ka importante ang 7 aside pag-improve sa short passes? kabantay ba ka nga daghang team sige lang long ball kay way short passes? kay nganong way short passing skills? dili man mudula basta dili onse-onse. for older kids, importante gihapon mukaton ug duwa 7 aside, even fewer.
do you have a record to prove this observation? have you ever considered the lack of goalscoring skills or perhaps the teams just defend well? big goalposts or small, draws are part of football, whether you like it or not.
there was once a proposal in Fifa to widen the goal posts (for 11-a-side) to increase the scorelines. the proposal was shot down for obvious reasons.
you ask for records regarding my observations, then look back sa aboitiz opening festival a few weeks back. if my memory serves me right P17, P14 championships ended in a shootout. more recently, CIS teams figured in shootouts which they lost sa alaska cup. thirsty cup mens division also ended in a shootout as well as the ladies division. do you need more "records" ?
i respect your role as a CFA defender (my conclusion), but you are being naive if you think that praises will cure our problems. re-read the posts and let the opinions and suggestions of the posters sink in aron mag-kasinabot ta. while there are certain terms nga pwedeng ma soften aron dili kaayo confrontational ang dating, these terms are a neccessity aron ma driven-in ang point.
if your team for example cannot form a competitive 11 a side squad then take it as a challenge nga maka develop ka or maka discover ka og players sa imong school or community. but dili man sab tingali sakto nga mo insister ta nga 7 a side lang ang tanan nga tournaments tungod kay kuwang ka og players. that would be unfair to schools and squads who are competitive in 11 a side football and are training for it.
kalma lang bai kay opinion sharing ning gibuhat nato. tutal mo lutaw man dyud ning gi-ingon nimong vested interests bah. if u feel nga naa koy vested interest for criticizing then naa pud tingali kay vested interest for overly defending. kung dili ta ganahan maminaw sa uban then undang lang ta diri.
mike, was this blog started and maintained to be an information site, a CFA PR outlet, or as a forum for cebu football. basin people like me and my opinions are not welcomed here. if so, then pahibaw-a lang mi kay dili na namo usik-usikan ang among pagsulod sa internet cafe kay mahal na raba ang abang.
the ideas presented regarding seven vs 11-a-side are very intersting..
im not so sure though whether people will be as enthusiastic in playing seven-a-side as they are in playing the full game, but for the weekend warriors, playing seven-a-side is preferrable.
why dont the schools with 10below teams take turns in organizing monthly festivals for 10below teams. from the top of my head, pwede man maka host ang don bosco, springdale, sacred heart, san roque, CIS, bright and san carlos coz these schools have their own fields. other teams like inter, hiroshi, etc can also be invited. bisan walay trophies or medals okey ra na. murang football carnival series - a different venue every month. this way, makapalabi og duwa ang mga bata, the oppurtunity to analyze and formulate tactics is achieved, and the home and away atmosphere will be experienced.
of course ang problema sa bayad sa referees for this concept naa lang gihapon, pero syaro pud nga dili nila ususan gamay ang ilang daily/festival rates. "do not bite the hands that feed you" puede ma apply ani.
why don't you ask this question yourself? duh. surely this site will still welcome onion-skinned posters. i'm always cool. i thrive on arguments. and i'm willing to face arguments even acerbic ones. if my arguments get under your skin, that's your problem, not mine and this site's. as they say, "stone, stone in the sky, if you're hit do not cry."
anyway, where did you get the idea that puro na lang 7-aside. you suggested i re-read the post. again, i suggest you apply that suggestion to yourself.
am i a cfa defender? yes and no. yes, because i support any program, group etc that will be good for football. no, because i'm not close to anybody in cfa. but i appreciate what they do. what i can't stand are power-hungry, groups and individuals who will jump at the smallest mistake and keep on grumbling without even bothering to go to cfa to present their suggestions and gripes. how spineless. until these groups do that, they'll have my respect as well, even if i'm just a penniless, insignificant chump who loves football.
this also reveals how insecure you are about your opinion. have you ever considered why every entry in this blog has a "comments" feature? what a loser.
indeed i do. you can't make conclusions based on these few games alone (5 in all, based on your memory). how many bracket championships didn't end in shootouts? how does the incidence of shootouts figure against non-shootouts, per tournament, per bracket, over a one-year period, on a year-to-year basis?
and are you sure that the format is to blame for the "high" incidence of shootouts or the style of play of the teams and the skills of the players?
if we are to give conclusions, definitely more records are needed. some of us here are not innumerates, you know.
we are presenting the merits and demerits of 7 aside/11 aside. it is up to the CFA, if ever they happen to read our posts, to determine if the suggestions has merit and use it in their program.
i made a suggestion regarding a carnival-type football series AFTER i made several comments regarding the lack of tournaments for the u10's. if i was just here to criticize, why would i bother presenting proposals. i would love to listen to your proposals if ever you have one. otherwise, people will just suspect that you are a paid hack. the goal here is to present ideas and/or criticize constructively.
you asked for an example regarding shootouts on 7aside finals and i gave you 5. if you ask for ten and i'll give you 15, for sure you will be asking for 20 more, so enough of the examples. my point has been proven. either you are simply not getting it, or you got it but you simply want to show otherwise.
i should repeat my offer to the administrator of this site (although he has already clarified this) - if this blog was meant to be a CFA PR tool and only pro-CFA posters are allowed here, then i just simply need for mike to tell me not to post anymore and i will.
there is no particular rule in this blog prohibiting what i am doing, unless of course i cross the bounds of decency. this is a marketplace of ideas, or a kitchen where arguments brew and boil.
you listen to yourself (especially that last sentence you posted) and tell us how that sounds like. my gulay.
(and plus of course you have the gall to insinuate that this blog is a PR machine of the CFA. you ought to apologize to mike)
if i'm a paid hack, who pays you then to put up suggestions?
i wonder how anyone can take suggestions from someone so cynical.
my disagreement over your arguments do not cost a thing, sir. not that they're cheap or what.
"people will just suspect that you are a paid hack"
i doubt if CFA has the budget for paid hacks. di man gani na kabayad ug referee.
still, i find your insinuation interesting that the CFA has paid hacks. it shows how you really feel about the organization. touche!
mao baya na atong gi-istoryahan pagsugod, until napikon lang kag kalit. gi-kwestyon nako ang ubang suggestion, dili na valid diri? asa man diay na padung ang concrete suggestions ug proposal, dili ba kunis-kunison, tadtaron nag maayo aron ang mahabilin mao ang pinakamaayo para sa football?
klarohon na nato, kay kung dili ta kadawat ug kritisismo sa atong kaugalingong suggestions, para nako, wala tay katungod nga mo-criticize ug programa sa uban.
we are not going to get anywhere if we get stuck-up criticizing each other's stance. we are losing focus on the more important matter - the CFA program.
pero unsaon man nato ingkaso wala dyud diay CFA program ?
please, read the whole thread (not just selected reading) how it has progressed so you'll understand (and to give you peace of mind).
besides, you'll realize that all this will still lead to programs and policies.
sir, this is a commentary section of a blog, not a sectarian classroom. and it's often inevitable for topics to digress, especially with multiple posters.
but i say this is healthy. why? people are discussing football.
i suggest to mike to make a NEW thread specifically for CFA's POLICIES and PROGRAMS aron didto ta magdiscuss (o maglalis)
What do you say, MIKE?
i cannot be specific on what interest me sa program. i simply want to know everything from formats, tournaments, sanctions, promotions, CFA team selection, etc.etc.
we can get FIFA and PFF rules and guidelines on the internet but CFA program is a local thing which we can better relate to thus my curiosity on why it hasn't been made public (some of you here may have read or know details about it if naa man dyud, but i have no knowlege that such a program exist).
to be fair lang, tournaments for the younger kids (u10's) was already established, but gamay ra kiniadto. giving credit where credit is due, diha ni grabe og daghan ang interesado sa football sa term sa present board.
kanang seniors division (the 38above that you mentioned), we have to give credit to don bosco alumni and thirsty for establishing that division(35above man to ang ilaha). gi-sanction lang to sa CFA. other organizers have their own 38above but the important tning is naay division for the older weekend warriors.
will be waiting eagerly for the posting of the CFA program. will be terribly disappointed and will loose all hope in cebu football if there is no program.
if the program cannot be posted (or there's no program to post), then might as well let's start posting our concrete suggestions and proposals (preferably in bullet form).
i'm sure the CFA will take note of our efforts in this blog and include, consider or adopt our inputs.
basta masugdan
pero first things first - naa ba dyud kahay program (kanang approved sa tanan og kanang dili gikan sa pila ra kabuok) . ang kuyaw ani kung walay program.
i just have to ask one thing though...im not asking you to reveal yourselves..just use a nickname..so we can determine which anonymous is pointing out what anonymous post...kung pwede lang...